The Grounds

Right on Jamie! This was a move the redskins had to make, whether it works or not. Giving up two first round picks is worth it to find your QB for the next ten years. All the people criticizing this move are just the usual redskins haters. This isn't signing old, overpriced free agents. This is committing to a quality human being that has a lot of promise. He brings excitement back to DC.

There are a couple of good guards out there in fa and maybe finnegan at cb. We are going to over pay to attract them.

I agree you need to draft a qb and rgIII is a much better option than orton and flynn. I cant agree with giving up so many valuable picks when so many holes exist.

There's NO chance it will end up like these "sure" things:

Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Heath Shuler, Andre Ware, Art Schlichter, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, David Klingler, JaMarcus Russell, Cade McNown, Rick Mirer, Kelly Stoufer, Todd Blackledge, Matt Leinart, etc...

Especially with the history of "system" QB's doing well. Or playing in a league (The Big 12) with the worst defenses in the country.

I'm trying to figure out when a trade of lots of draft picks has worked.

Go Cowboys.

2.........they received one back from the Rams

Nobody watched him play much he was injured and that team was pretty bad everywhere offensively outside of fitzgerald.

Dude, Kevin Kolb is terrible.

Surreal that anyone can rationalize this deal. It is completely and utterly irrational.

It will most likely set the Skins back another 5-7 years. It could make them a playofff fixture for the next 10. But there is nothing in between.

Any talk of "they had to do this deal", and "they had to get a franchise QB", and "that's just what the market was", is just complete willful ignorance. Let's call a spade a spade and accept that this is betting the entire house on one player.

If they didn't have to do this in your opinion, then I would like to hear your alternatives for a franchise that has wasted draft picks and money, on a lot of QBs since Mark Rypien. Please explain how this is irrational for a team with the worst QBs in football?

Perhaps that's true, JO. However, if you think back to the Skins' best years in the 80s and 90s, they won with solid defense (even without a lot of outright stars), great line play, solid but system RBs, and caretaker, serviceable QBs. Building a team and plugging in system QBs seems like a better model for long-term success than selling the farm for one QB, who himself has some question marks. Def not a skins fan here, esp under current ownership, but Snyder et al. Have shown zero ability to build a team around RGiii, or any other QB.

1) The nice thing about being so bad at QB is that you can improve without getting Luck or RGIII. Orton would be a marked improvement over Beck/Grossman.

2) I understand that RGIII's market rate was high. Most teams besides Cleveland or DC would say it's too high. Just because I really really need a car doesn't mean I should pay too much for it.

3) I too enjoy his socks, and his mid-range dreads. He'll make a fine bobblehead for my desk. I just wish he didn't cost so much.

Orton is a marginal improvement over Grossman. And the Redskins have tried the FA QB market and failed miserably. Why continue to do the same thing? Manning wasn't going to the Skins, so that is a non-starter. The most glaring weakness the Redskins has is at QB, without question. You can't just get a FA QB and think everything will be ok. They will continue to suck without a franchise QB. Where can you find good talent on the FA market? WR, CB, OL, where the Redskins need help. You think about 28 other teams would have given up 2 1st round picks for someone like Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, or Aaron Rodgers? Of course they would. Is there any guarantee that Griffin will be a franchise QB? No. But I can pretty much guarantee that no FAs in the current QB market are going to make the Redskins any better. Not only is Griffin a good player, but he is a great person, which the city of Washington desperately needs.