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  • Really, it's a reflection of where things are right now, compared to where things have been. I'm counting 7 hokie-related threads on page 1, and a couple of them are infested with hokie garbage.

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  • John Montague said...

    Really, it's a reflection of where things are right now, compared to where things have been. I'm counting 7 hokie-related threads on page 1, and a couple of them are infested with hokie garbage.

    Well maybe I'm not making myself clear enough here. I don't see why we have to play nice with Hokies on this board when I have never been to one of their boards to post a thing. Not once. I have read other threads to get their viewpoint to balance mine a few times, and have seen how others get treated on their message boards and its not pretty.

    There is a general hostility and inferiority complex that every Hokie holds towards Hoos in my experience and I'm tired of being nice about it. We let them come in to our place and are courteous and get flack about it, we allow them to come on our message boards and are expected to do the same.

    This post was edited by KR4K3N on 4/24/2012 at 1:01 AM

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  • Sorry kraken, that wasn't a response to your post. I think we're pretty much on the same page here.

    I understand that Jamie has better things to do than police this board. Perhaps the title of the thread is misguided. Personally, I couldn't care if it's Jamie or Santa Claus, as long as someone is keeping a watchful eye out for hokie trolls, and keeping them away from the little party we throw here every day.

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  • KR4K3N said...

    Well maybe I'm not making myself clear enough here. I don't see why we have to play nice with Hokies on this board when I have never been to one of their boards to post a thing. Not once. I have read other threads to get their viewpoint to balance mine a few times, and have seen how others get treated on their message boards and its not pretty.

    There is a general hostility and inferiority complex that every Hokie holds towards Hoos in my experience and I'm tired of being nice about it. We let them come in to our place and are courteous and get flack about it, we allow them to come on our message boards and are expected to do the same.

    I really have not seen much "trolling" going on over here by VT posters. But I also do not flip through every thread that pops up on this site. I just post in ones that get my attention and I would like to have a "conversation" in.

    I do not come over here looking to bicker and argue like a bunch of 12 years olds. I respect the fact that this is a UVA board and most of you guys can not stand most things that are VT. But if you cant look past the screen name long enough to have a friendly conversation that is kind of pathetic.

    I have seen a few of you guys on the VTSCOOP side and most have been informative and nice change of pace to talk to. Good day fellas cheers

    This post was edited by vtfan_90 on 4/24/2012 at 6:33 AM

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  • John Montague said...

    Really, it's a reflection of where things are right now, compared to where things have been. I'm counting 7 hokie-related threads on page 1, and a couple of them are infested with hokie garbage.

    Again, use the "Show post to Wahoos247 subscribers only" box and most of these issues go away.

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  • vtfan_90 said...

    I really have not seen much "trolling" going on over here by VT posters. But I also do not flip through every thread that pops up on this site. I just post in ones that get my attention and I would like to have a "conversation" in.

    I do not come over here looking to bicker and argue like a bunch of 12 years olds. I respect the fact that this is a UVA board and most of you guys can not stand most things that are VT. But if you cant look past the screen name long enough to have a friendly conversation that is kind of pathetic.

    I have seen a few of you guys on the VTSCOOP side and most have been informative and nice change of pace to talk to. Good day fellas cheers

    @vtfan_90. I don't think anyone has a problem with fans from other programs posting comments or opinions, as we have had plenty from other schools on here from time to time. Its when certain people come on here talking trash, inciting negative responses, then running back to the VT forums to brag is when this gets old. How many flamers have you all had from the UVA site posting or coming to the VT forum talking trash?

    @PG come on dog "childish" don't get me started.

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    @vtfan_90. I don't think anyone has a problem with fans from other programs posting comments or opinions, as we have had plenty from other schools on here from time to time. Its when certain people come on here talking trash, inciting negative responses, then running back to the VT forums to brag is when this gets old. How many flamers have you all had from the UVA site posting or coming to the VT forum talking trash?

    @PG come on dog "childish" don't get me started.

    I have hardly seen any that is why I like the 247 site better than any others.. Totally different feel to it as far as conversation goes. Every fan base has their share of idiots most know who they are..

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  • KR4K3N said...

    ...I don't see why we have to play nice with Hokies on this board...

    That's kind of my point -- We DON'T have to play nice with Hokies on this board. We don't like something they have to say, we put 'em in check. It's really as simple as that.

    I personally think that vtfan 90 has (so far) proven his worth, and I actually like having him here from time to time. GDubyaHokie has also been decent, and though he got a bit smarmy last night, Jamie cleaned it up quickly. I'm not generally a fan of HNB dating back to the site on Rivals, but even he is capable of being a non-douche from time to time.

    The bottom line is that if we bitch and moan about them being here, we only serve to reinforce their negative stereotype of us. If we engage them in earnest and fair discourse - and hammer them into place when they need/deserve it - then we rise above the nonsense drivel of 95% of their fanbase and we serve to reinforce our own positive self-image. We can prove that we are better than they are... by being better than they are.

    When your brother walks up and slaps you in the face, what do you do? Run and tell Mommy, or punch him in the beak? I'm ready to start feeding these Turkeys the anonymous internet message board equivalent of a knuckle sandwich. But only if they slap me in the face. If they're here and being cool, then why can't we just get along? Some posters on this board (not necessarily me) somewhat enjoy the difference of opinion they might bring to the board. You know, the whole "embracing diversity" thing.

    For example, I'll enjoy hearing what vtfan 90 has to say about Tech's upcoming coaching search.

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    That's kind of my point -- We DON'T have to play nice with Hokies on this board. We don't like something they have to say, we put 'em in check. It's really as simple as that.

    I personally think that vtfan 90 has (so far) proven his worth, and I actually like having him here from time to time. GDubyaHokie has also been decent, and though he got a bit smarmy last night, Jamie cleaned it up quickly. I'm not generally a fan of HNB dating back to the site on Rivals, but even he is capable of being a non-douche from time to time.

    The bottom line is that if we bitch and moan about them being here, we only serve to reinforce their negative stereotype of us. If we engage them in earnest and fair discourse - and hammer them into place when they need/deserve it - then we rise above the nonsense drivel of 95% of their fanbase and we serve to reinforce our own positive self-image. We can prove that we are better than they are... by being better than they are.

    When your brother walks up and slaps you in the face, what do you do? Run and tell Mommy, or punch him in the beak? I'm ready to start feeding these Turkeys the anonymous internet message board equivalent of a knuckle sandwich. But only if they slap me in the face. If they're here and being cool, then why can't we just get along? Some posters on this board (not necessarily me) somewhat enjoy the difference of opinion they might bring to the board. You know, the whole "embracing diversity" thing.

    For example, I'll enjoy hearing what vtfan 90 has to say about Tech's upcoming coaching search.

    As far as the search goes Im a Duke Basketball fan so I have no input in VT basketball.biggrin

    Nah really.. I think the AD left us in a tight spot with pulling the plug so late in the season. We missed the big coaching carousel. We will have to probably get somebody that has close VT ties or a small school HC. I just think it is really going to be hard to keep the team together plus the 2 recruits that we have coming in. One of which has been blowing up camps lately.

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  • it drives me insane how many VT football fans are duke basketball "fans"

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  • Kyle_Barnes said...

    it drives me insane how many VT football fans are duke basketball "fans"

    That was a joke if you did not get that... But i know where you are coming from.

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  • Most Hokies are UNC and Duke basketball fans. Nobody would argue that. As for the firing of Uncle Fester, I thought your AD did him dirty. How do you call a press conference before you tell the coach that he is being canned? Before UVA fired Al Groh, he knew he was gone long before the press conference. I didn't like Seth but he didn't deserve going out that way. No coach does.

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  • blacksburghoo said...

    Most Hokies are UNC and Duke basketball fans. Nobody would argue that. As for the firing of Uncle Fester, I thought your AD did him dirty. How do you call a press conference before you tell the coach that he is being canned? Before UVA fired Al Groh, he knew he was gone long before the press conference. I didn't like Seth but he didn't deserve going out that way. No coach does.

    I agree it is a bad situation for both parties.

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  • Jamie Oakes said...

    Again, use the "Show post to Wahoos247 subscribers only" box and most of these issues go away.

    Where is this great button?

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  • Coreyt14 said...

    Where is this great button?

    Right under "Post Reply."

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  • vtfan_90 said...

    I have hardly seen any that is why I like the 247 site better than any others.. Totally different feel to it as far as conversation goes. Every fan base has their share of idiots most know who they are..

    Believe me, it will get there. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard that "every fan base has its share of idiots" excuse I would be filthy rich, matter of fact make that a penny and I still could retire before 40. I also guess you agree that Coach London is a fake, a fraud, and a racist?

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  • TravisHoo said...

    Believe me, it will get there. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard that "every fan base has its share of idiots" excuse I would be filthy rich, matter of fact make that a penny and I still could retire before 40. I also guess you agree that Coach London is a fake, a fraud, and a racist?

    To be honest I could really careless.. Look at it this way. If CML is a fake, a fraud, and a racist it will do nothing but hurt his rep and UVA football in the long run. If he is not and turns out to be a good coach it will only make the state of VA much more entertaining in the future.

    Also another way to look at it is EVERY coach that wants to recruit good and win game has to lie to somebody. No way you can land big time players without telling them something that will more than likely not be true.

    CML has never done anything to me or anybody I know so I can not make an assumption. All some people have to go by what other people here or say. Articles likes these will not help people make a good accurate assumption because they only get one side of the story.

    Do you all consider "Arden" one of you own or do you guys disown him? People that have been on Rivals will know who im talking about.

    This post was edited by vtfan_90 on 4/24/2012 at 9:05 AM

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  • JoeHoo said...

    Right under "Post Reply."

    I was hoping there was an option to turn it on permanently....

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  • @vtfan_90. Don't let facts get in the way of good slander. I'm going to wrap some Duct tape around my head, have a good day! :-D

    I know who Arden is, but 1 Arden to all the DB hokie fans that are active posters doesn't even things out.

    This post was edited by TravisHoo on 4/24/2012 at 9:36 AM

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  • I live in Blacksburg. I hear what some of these fans are saying about London and it is disgraceful. However, it puts a smile on my face when I hear these guys complain constantly about London. If there was nothing to fear, there would be no attention placed on London. The Hokies talk about London as much as they talk about Beamer. That means London is doing his job and doing it well. If they wasn't giving him any attention, I would be worried.

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  • blacksburghoo said...

    I live in Blacksburg. I hear what some of these fans are saying about London and it is disgraceful. However, it puts a smile on my face when I hear these guys complain constantly about London. If there was nothing to fear, there would be no attention placed on London. The Hokies talk about London as much as they talk about Beamer. That means London is doing his job and doing it well. If they wasn't giving him any attention, I would be worried.

    Yeah they say that London is racist and selling black vs white on the recruiting trail (but has white coaches on staff), he sells church but that's just an act and he sells his fake story about having a gun pulled on him while a cop in Richmond. These people are the enemy in the world of college football fandom and if you guys can't see that nobody can help you.

    Hokies will infect this site as they already have and offer their opinion on everything whether you like it or not, then when we don't like something they turn to "38-0, talk to me when you win, acc titles, blah blah blah". I personally dont want to read any of their trash. If I wanted to talk Hokie sports I would ask one of the many VT fans I call friends, they can actually have a realistic conversation and are reasonable......I don't care what anonymous message board antagonistic herbs have to say.

    All of these 'good egg' Hokie fans troll you here and run back to their board and brag about it, that part of UVa vs VT wil never change. Stop thinking you have to be "classier" than them and allow them to present their opinions on our board. I'm not going to their board to post anything and I dont want to read their garbage here. I'm going to ignore every last one of them and hope to avoid it all together.

    Don't expect Jamie to stand up for you as a fan in any fashion other than the site moderator on Wahoos 247. He doesn't care about UVa / VT football personally, he doesn't go home at night and fume over a loss, doesnt have to hear sh*t from all the VT fans at cookouts, take abuse in the stands of Scott Stadium, on the highway getting flicked off by SUVs with Hokie magnets all over them. He doesnt live a real UVa fan's life and cares only about his business model and contacts to provide information that we pay for. He is a business owner and the best interest of that business is more subscriptions, Hoos or Hokie doesnt matter. It's not in his interest to ban people from the site.

    I think some of you forget this, JO is great at what he does and IMO provides the best independent media coverage of UVa sports......but he's not your savior when it comes to UVa vs VT on the internet and never will be.

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  • Coreyt14 said...

    Don't expect Jamie to stand up for you as a fan in any fashion other than the site moderator on Wahoos 247. He doesn't care about UVa / VT football personally, he doesn't go home at night and fume over a loss, doesnt have to hear sh*t from all the VT fans at cookouts, take abuse in the stands of Scott Stadium, on the highway getting flicked off by SUVs with Hokie magnets all over them. He doesnt live a real UVa fan's life and cares only about his business model and contacts to provide information that we pay for. He is a business owner and the best interest of that business is more subscriptions, Hoos or Hokie doesnt matter. It's not in his interest to ban people from the site.

    I think some of you forget this, JO is great at what he does and IMO provides the best independent media coverage of UVa sports......but he's not your savior when it comes to UVa vs VT on the internet and never will be.

    That sounds so cold and vile ... I hate myself now. Thanks, Corey.

    But let's be clear, this is a UVa-centric site. My loyalty is to those that subscribe to this site. Keeping one or two problems doesn't help if it means losing 30.

    I can have the national office make the change to only subscribers of this site being able to post.

    Have at it, guys. If that's what you want, I can make it happen.

    What's the call?

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