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Heard on Colin Cowherd's show and just now again on Best Seat in the House that Norfolk might be a player for the NFL's 34th team (33rd earmarked for LA). Saying the league won't just expand to 33, that it'd go +2 to 34. Norfolk, London, and OKC could end up being the finalists for team #34.
What do you guy think about this?
Would immediately become my team 1b
same here.. i think this area could and woud definately support a NFL team..
Absolutely no chance it happens. The money just isn't there. It would require regional cooperation and that region has had this discussion before. Neither Norfolk nor Virginia Beach will cooperate unless the stadium is in "their" borders.
Maybe if they proposed building the stadium with the Norfolk/Virginia Beach border running through the 50 yard line.
Thanks G, for saying what I was trying to say just before me. Story of my life.
One thing is for sure. If Norfolk City Council can find a way to waste their citizens' tax dollars, they'll go for it. If there's any way to toss in a side of local government corruption, they'll take that too.
I would love that to happen but I don't see it happening.
NFL isnt happening. NBA just might. Stay tuned for a couple months.
NBA wouldn't do as well here as the NFL in my opinion, but I would take either. Would help put us on the map.
this quesiton doesn't really follow the theme of the thread, but the nfl already has failing franchises, how the hell does expansion make sense?
The commissioner said that if LA was to get a new team in the future the league would expand to 34 teams instead of staying at 33 teams. There really wasn't a justification as to why LA would get a new franchise versus an existing one. Not sure of how the question was phrased, however.
And if a team from the NBA was going to relocate, they would move to a city with an arena already in place. Think Vegas, Annaheim, San Diego, or Kansas City. The Scope or Hampton Colesium hardly qualify.
Norfolk is going to be in for a fight to fund the plan they select for the Waterside renovation. I can't imagine how they would finance an NBA caliber arena. Same goes for Va Beach where their first financial priorities are pushing through light rail and a new convention center hotel on the backs of taxpayers.
This post was edited by Karl Hess 2 years ago
isn't Norfolk / Hampton Roads area the most populous area in the US without a single pro sports franchise?
We'll just have to wait and see what happens. I believe we'll be revisiting this topic in April/May.
Yes. However, it lacks the high end corporate involvement to buy up the luxury boxes which have become so important to NFL teams.
I know there is difficulty reconciling this with Green Bay which is a blue collar town and I can't explain Green Bay either even though I've been a die hard Packer fan since 1967. If we could generate that kind of dedicated support for a NFL franchise in the Hampton Roads area and get all the local communities to unite behind it, perhaps it could work. In the past, the local communities refused to work together, again primarily because of Norfolk and Virginia Beach demanding that they be the principal beneficiaries of the franchise. Reality is, they should put the stadium in some place like Chesapeake or Suffolk, where there is less traffic and more elbow room and it should be a joint project of all of Hampton Roads, including the Peninsula as they all could benefit.
Hope I'm wrong because I'd love to have a team here too. Just don't see the economics working for the reasons G24 and I stated.
I agee with everything both of you said, but there's another angle at play. Wish i could be more specific at this point. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I wish you could too. Why can't you?
When it comes to deals much smaller than this, secrecy is the name of the game. I work in local government doing development review, and we won't officially comment on anything until we have an application in front of us to respect the developers' desire for keeping things quiet.
In my opinion, the NHL would be the most likely to locate there, given the fairly long history of AHL and ECHL hockey in Norfolk. I also think an nhl franchise may do oka, but an NBA team could kill it in Hampton Roads. If the seven cities could play nice - then we could talk bigger.
He has to be talking about the proposal to build a 22,000 seat arena at the Waterside site in Norfolk. A developer wants to build the arena and bring a NBA team there. Norfolk city council solicited development proposals for the site and this was one of the plans leaked to the public. The city is still reviewing the proposals but hasn't committed publicly to anything. And there were no details mentioned regarding how it would be paid for. The same developer presented the plan to Va Beach and they declined.
The only thing that would seem to be a factor in the argument about the lack of business for stadium for the NFL in the area, would be that IMHO that would take care of itself. The NFL generates it's own business potential because it will bring people which brings advertising potential. Business will follow that. Seems to me that it would not take long for that to sell out with all the people there who would follow and support that team. Just makes sense to me.
Los Angeles will get an expansion team if there is one; currently they have only one pro team: USC!
but only in salary....not skill level yet!
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