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What moves of his this offseason do you disagree with and why? We pay Mike London millions of dollars to get us to 4-8, and looking fairly dysfunctional in doing so, in his 3rd season? Every one of these moves was done so Mike could KEEP making those millions of dollars. London was the initial/high end investment...the AD's office is doing all it can to make sure it's a good one. If the moves pay off he owes JO a HUGE thank you.
Maybe so, but from this fan's perspective the recent moves were all pretty good. I'm entitled to that opinion, MAD or not.
Tentacles, not testicles. GEEZ.
So is Jon Oliver the "OG" Kraken?
Makes more sense that way. My bad.
Yes in Europe and it still may happen.
You fail to see the forest through the trees dude.
We are the only program in the nation where some schmuck deputy AD without any football qualifications is involved in hiring and firing decisions of assistants. This is Jerry jones behavior. The difference is that Jerry jones owns the team and foots the bills. Jon Oliver has no business interfering with the mgmt of the team, the staff, the players, anything. Not any football team, and certainly not uva. Sure he can have involvement when interviewing a head coach, but after that his opinion should never matter esp in football. he is no more qualified to do this than i am -- this is no lie! His ghoulish presence on the sideline is more than enough. We don't need his paws making staffing decisions or forcing change. We don't need his useless opinion in press releases.
Mike London was hired to run a team. These are his decisions to make. Nobody elses. It is absolutely ridiculous that he has been Castrated in a way that prevents him from making the staffing decisions on HIS coaching staff.
So maybe I missed this before, but this sure makes it sound like we were the ones that pulled the plug on the PSU game. I thought the party line was that PSU pulled it.
Are you saying the AD or associate AD at no other school in the country is involved in hiring decisions? That's ludicrous.
And see, I would say YOU are the one who can't see the forest through trees.
We are one of the only programs in the country paying the $$$ we are to get sh#t results. I say who cares who is making the moves so long as they help team. Can you honestly say we are not in better shape than we were December 1? If Mike doesn't like being castrated than he and his staff should've provided better results. I say he's damn lucky to still have a job...my opinion is his coaching on game days last year was about as poor as any I've ever seen from a 3rd year guy. The team/program had no identity and key decisions lacked quality coaching (see final 2 minutes in Blacksburg).
It's quite clear you don't like JO and that's perfectly fine. I'm just saying that whether or not you like him or how he did it is one thing, whether or not they were good moves is another. So again, do you not think they were good moves?
Are you self-employed? Do you have a boss? I am not self-employed and I do have a boss, and I can tell you that my boss would "castrate" me anytime I was about to make a decision that would negatively impact the business or his livelihood.
To suggest that Mike London deserves complete autonomy after two prior years as a head coach (and neither at the D1-A level) is a little bit naive, I would say.
He needed a nudge. Jon Oliver gave it to him. On paper, the results of that collaborative effort look pretty good.
Interesting post in that it does expose a very troubling situation. Are we simply trying to put band aid on a gun shot wound?
Did we hire the wrong guy for the head position and instead of doing the difficult - expensive - thing we are throwing money at it to fix the issue (those of you near DC may appreciate). The alternative is that Mike is the right guy because of all of the positives he brings. He was just placed in way over his head - given this past year this isn't unquestionable - too early in his still young career and just needs a strong hand to help him through as he gets some seasoning.
In all fairness to ML, I like him and think he has a ton of positives. Some people just aren't meant to be CEO but make one heckuva VP Sales. At this point the jury is still out, I'm hopeful that Oliver and CL's eye for coaching talent is spot on with London and he just needed some time and a mentor to develop as CEO.
This post was edited by jhooVA 15 months ago
Great/ sobering post.
Nope it's Europe. They were going to have academic-related student trips over there as well.
This for alumni as well?
trust me, i am not.
you are too focused on the moves/outcomes. i am focused on the process.
regarding the moves/outcomes, clearly the jury is out. firing jim reid may prove to be a stupid decision. obviously the defensive unit was the only unit that improved and was our most consistently productive unit over the past two years.
the process here is what is so f-d up on two levels.
(1) if our coach requires outside assistance to right the ship, then he is underqualified / incompetent / both and must be replaced immediately. period. end of story.
(2) in the event our athletic department violates (1) and inserts itself in the core mgmt of the football program, the last person who should meddle is someone like jon oliver who is totally unqualified for such activity.
oh lord. deep breath.
(1) regarding your silly "complete autonomy due to inexperience " comment my response is very direct: then wtf did the EXACT SAME PEOPLE hire this man in the first instance and commit huge sums of money in the process !?!?!?!!?! it seems perfectly reasonable to assume that a head coach making millions of dollars should manage the program in the way he deems appropriate. to suggest otherwise is utter nonsense.
(2) jon oliver did not give him a nudge. he got completely involved in the hiring minutia, a role for which he is totally unqualified. if the involved athletic dept representative was barry alvarez, the argument is radically different. but jon oliver is not barry alvarez. in fact, jon oliver has no background in football! none! and he's getting involved with installing systems!?!?!? this is complete and utter madness. this is where your silly "are you self employed / boss" analogies fall apart. i do not work for someone who is totally unqualified to perform my role. he had performed my role before he founded our firm and has more experience in it than i do. again, as i said before, jon oliver is TOTALY UNQUALIFIED TO MEDDLE IN THE DAY-TO-DAY MGMT OF THE HUMAN BEINGS IN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. HE HAS ZERO EXPERIENCE MANAGING A FOOTBALL TEAM!
(3) let me ask the question a final way. on what basis should jon oliver's opinion matter in any football-related issue other than scheduling???
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