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To be fair those four markets are in the top 10 in size, while the B1G markets are generally smaller
Obviously East Lansing and Bloomington are smaller towns, but the B1G is EVERYWHERE in those nearby big cities. It's not like Georgia Tech's situation in Atlanta, where they are at best a blip on the radar. BC is even less ofa blip in Boston. But Chicago, a top five media market, is chock full of B1G alums.
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But whether or not the Atlanta market is big on GT, they're college football crazy, and if the ACC offered a good product, they'd watch it. Meanwhile I work in Indy right now and know several IU alums (read: all of them) who didn't attend a single football game while they were enrolled and don't watch the team at all or care for any college football. This is a pro town. Atlanta, even with the Falcons, is obsessed with college football
Anecdotal evidence, though, and not only from the least football-crazed school in the conference, but from one of the smaller metro areas in the footprint. Atlanta's obsessed with college football, yes, but every time I'm there I see UGA, Alabama, Auburn, UT, UF, etc. on all the plates and bumper stickers and flags. In other words - it's SEC crazed.
Perk is absolutely right about the markets. There are only a few big ones where the ACC is king. Atlanta really isn't one of them.
As M&B noted, you're using the worst football program in the B1G to come to a conclusion about the rest of the conference. Not wise. IU is the Duke of the Big Ten.
The irony is the reason we are below the other conferences in pay is because FSU and Miami, who were brought in to improve ACC football and bring in more tv revenue, have sucked the last 5 years.
5 years? How about 10 or 15?
maybe i'm misunderstanding what you are talking about wrt to satellite campuses, but unc ashville, unc wilmington, unc greensboro, western carolina and unc charlotte are all part of the UNC system.
also there is this
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I said UNC in my previous post.
didn't read back far enough. carry on
Flaming hypocrites. The ACC bent over backwards to accommodate those assholes when Miami joined. We put them in separate divisions because that's what they wanted. We put the ACCCG in Florida because that's what they wanted. We became a laughingstock because of it, too, because it turns out nobody goes to a championship game in Florida. We basically said eff you to football traditionalists so the Florida schools could get their way, and they repaid the league with academic scandals and football mediocrity.
I agree. FSU doesn't have anybody to blame but themselves for their struggles.
FWIW espn ticker says no contact between FSU and B12, so that means there has deffinately been contact right?
this is heating up...this could be reallly really really BAD for us..unless it miraculously ends us in the Big Ten we will get screwed
From Yahoo! Sports: An errant TV contract with ESPN angered several institutions, and the chairman of FSU's board of trustees says the school may consider changing conferences.
I seriously doubt FSU leaves the ACC. Haggard's term is up at the next BOT's meeting. He's just trying to remain relevant. Can anyone here name one school that left a conference with a better academic reputation for a lesser one? It just doesn't happen.
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This whole system is messed up. Here is what I see as of now. Of the 5 major football conferences (Big East excluded) there are 62 teams (Pac-12: 12, Big XII: 10, Big 10: 12, SEC: 14, ACC: 14.) The names are becoming completely irrelevant at this point, but in a 4 conference, 16 team play off scenario, ALL the current schools in the big 5 PLUS two (Notre Dame would be one, I'm sure) more schools could be broken up legitimately in 4, 16 team conferences. Right now, we're 1 of only 2, 14 team leagues, so I think in some ways that is a bonus for ACC....
That is as far as this whole system can go as far as logic is concerned, but the future of this whole system... it's just f#%@ed up. No good shall come.
saw this on another board. i am just coming to grips with the fact that i just spent 10 minutes reading a WVU message board. don't judge me.
I say let them go. We brought them into the league because of football and the past 5 years they haven't even been relevant. As long as we don't lose anybody from the original 8. I could care less. If they are losing money in their sports they have nobody but themselves to blame. When you have an 80,000 seat stadium and you aren't good you aren't going to fill the seats no matter what conference you are in. The ACC will get to renegotiate again if and when Notre Dame comes in, if FSU leaves it just opens the door for Rutgers and UConn to be the next schools to enter the league.
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I just wanted to add one more thing. IMO I would like to see the ACC go with another network besides ESPN. While I have loved ESPN for many years it is becoming too commericailized for me. They were at one time all about the sports fan, and still are to a degree but they are worried about advertising for the whole Disney/ABC entity as well and it gets kind of old.
Unfortunately none of the other networks are willing to pony up the cash or the coverage. Even if say nbc wanted for fork over the money, could they offer the same amount of coverage and tv time? They would have to give up their regular primetime scheduling for fb and bball and probably put games on their lesser channels to match. It would be a huge shift for a network like that unfortunately.
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